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  • ChickeNES 1 hour ago
    Wild to think this is the same project featured in the third Die Hard, which turned 30 this year.
    • linksnapzz 1 hour ago
      Should they ever reboot Die Hard; it'll need a sequence involving CA HSR infrastructure.
      • wtvanhest 1 hour ago
        Die Hard: The most expensive mile
    • cogman10 1 hour ago
      The project started in 1954. A 70 year old project.
  • mmooss 1 hour ago
    So many questions ... which probably have been asked on prior HN threads ...

    I wonder why 800 feet underground: Is that necessary to pass beneath all other infrastructure (to prevent flooding it?)? Remain beneath waterline to create negative pressure and reduce leaking? ?

    Also, what is the general mathematical relationship between depth, rock pressure / weight, and energy required to drill? That is, what is the proportion of energy required to drill beneath 800 feet of material compared to drilling beneath 400 feet?

    ...

    • Spooky23 29 minutes ago
      The depth allows it to be drilled through bedrock, which avoids a bunch of complications on an already complicated project.

      This thing will probably be operating hundreds of years from now. What a project.

    • cogman10 1 hour ago
      It's a 60 mile long tunnel and in order for water to flow through it, you need either pumps or a downhill gradient.

      I'd guess the reason for the 800 ft is because the reservoir it'll draw from is near sea level.

      • woodruffw 2 minutes ago
        > I'd guess the reason for the 800 ft is because the reservoir it'll draw from is near sea level.

        I believe Tunnel #3 connects to the Catskill Aqueduct[1], which draws from the Schoharie and Ashokan reservoirs. Both are at least a few hundred feet above sea level (the Ashokan is about 600 feet above, since it was formed by flooding a valley in the Catskills).

        But I have no idea why they dug it so deep, given that! Maybe to give themselves an (extremely) ample buffer for any future infrastructure in Manhattan.

      • nuccy 34 minutes ago
        Rivers (e.g. Mississipi) work with much smaller gradient of just 0.01% [1], while with your assumption it would be 0.25%, so 25x.

        Maybe instead it needs to pass under the rivers [2: cross-section] surrounding New-York, which may be much deeper, especially when it comes closer to the bay passing Queens and Brooklyn [2: map]

        1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River

        2. https://gordonsurbanmorphology.wordpress.com/2014/10/26/wate...

    • 7thpower 1 hour ago
      Those are… actually some very good questions.
  • Animats 1 hour ago
    They finally got Water Tunnel #3 close to completion? Work was stopped a decade or so ago, but apparently it was restarted.
    • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
      Still a bit more to go. Hopefully they offer some tours of the final phase before it’s flooded and no longer accessible for decades.

      > The Bronx and Manhattan already receive water from it, and the final phase — extending service to Brooklyn and Queens — is expected to be completed by 2032.