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  • WorkerBee28474 8 hours ago
    The Kemmerer Unit 1 project... would be used to demonstrate the TerraPower and General Electric-Hitachi Natrium sodium fast reactor technology. [0]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-cooled_fast_reactor

    [0] https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/advanced/who-were-...

    • SoftTalker 3 hours ago
      Nice, I like the sodium fast reactor concept. Produces less waste, can be passively cooled when shut down, and doesn't run pressurized so reactor vessel can be thinner.

      Sodium leaks can be nasty, but they can be dealt with.

      • jacobn 1 hour ago
        Are there any nuclear alternatives that don't include strapping low grade bombs to the reactor core (PRW/BWR: water separation -> hydrogen + oxygen -> boom, like happened @ Fukushima) or using coolants that instantly start violently combusting when exposed to air or moisture (sodium)?

        I love the promise of nuclear energy, and I understand that every single engineering decision has tradeoffs, but these tradeoffs just seem so bad? Are there really no better options?

        • fwipsy 49 minutes ago
          I was also curious. Claude answers: https://claude.ai/share/244fc2f5-1c4d-4e52-b316-e9cc34c8b98b I would be interested in a real expert's critique/commentary of this answer.

          I like the pebble-bed design because it seems the most intrinsically safe of the three.

        • chickenbig 46 minutes ago
          The AGRs are advanced reactors that use an inert coolant, CO2. In fact they have been designed to cool down quicker than any credible loss of coolant. And have been in service since the 70s, with some slated to go on until 2030.
        • evilos 49 minutes ago
          I mean the LWR fleet has proven to be incredibly safe by any objective measure with deaths per TWhr as good or better than wind/solar. The very incident you mentioned had a direct death count of 0 or 1 depending on who you ask. Industrial shit blows up all the time, you just don't hear about it because it's normal and accepted.

          What needs to improve about nuclear is our ability to deliver it on time and on budget. Safety is already more than adequate.

  • bokohut 7 hours ago
    And the verbiage that many will glance over yet will have the greatest future impacts for all alive is: "...includes an energy storage system..."

    Todays U.S. meeting "Roundtable on Ratepayer Protection Pledge" with the U.S. President himself leading that meeting garnished commitments from Big Tech as it relates to energy. In time Big Tech Energy divisions will be thing and some citizens will be paying their utilities bill to them.

    • conradev 5 hours ago
      In Texas and Massachusetts you can actually pick your power provider while paying the natural monopoly for the wires. In time I hope we all can do this.
      • ploxiln 4 hours ago
        This is how it works in NYC, but the wires are almost twice as expensive as the power. (If you add taxes and the numerous weird fees, the total bill is a solid 3x the cost of the power.) It's really all about the grid maintenance and management these days.
        • treis 4 hours ago
          We do this for gas. IMHO you end up paying monopoly rates for the pipes and then stupid game prices for the gas. Maybe the savvy consumer comes out ahead but seems like a net negative to me.
          • hvb2 1 hour ago
            It's not monopoly rates, it's actual utility rates. The only problem here is if the utility is allowed to make a profit. Gas pipes, electric lines and internet connections are like roads in today's society. Can't really live without them.

            So assuming the pipe maintenance is done at cost, with no money not being spent on the network. What would your better net positive solution even look like?

      • sgc 2 hours ago
        We do that in Northern California as well. There are only a couple of options though.
    • jeffbee 7 hours ago
      There are large solar power stations on the grid in California owned by tech firms so you may indeed already be paying, indirectly, Apple for energy.
  • rgmerk 6 hours ago
    Their hoped-for completion date is "2031". Anyone want to hazard a guess about what their actual completion date for this plant will be?
    • mikeyouse 5 hours ago
      Presumably it’ll end up like the NuScale one, raise a few billion for design and prototyping and then every 6 months or so increase the target wholesale price by 50% until it makes no sense at all economically to begin primary construction. They’ll reverse IPO along the way and manipulate the stock enough to get insiders paid out while the carcass of a company trundles along.
      • credit_guy 5 hours ago
        No. They have Bill Gates as a founder. Bill Gates understands that nuclear is a long game.

        > They’ll reverse IPO along the way and manipulate the stock enough to get insiders paid out while the carcass of a company trundles along.

        I'm not sure what "reverse IPO" means, maybe you mean they'll be acquired by a SPAC, like NuScale was. I doubt it. Bill Gates founded Terrapower in 2008, he is not looking for a quick buck.

      • rgmerk 5 hours ago
        In theory, at least, they have finished their design, had it reviewed by the NRC, and had it approved, so there should be no significant design changes.

        But that also applies for the current generation of reactors and nobody can build them to schedule or budget in the USA or Europe.

        • mikeyouse 5 hours ago
          Yep. NuScale received design certification as well and still ended up with multiple huge revisions. It’s not easy to build any nuclear, much less a FOAK reactor.

          But when that fails, you can just siphon up taxpayer money via your connections to the ruling cabal.

          https://www.thedailybeast.com/tiny-trump-linked-firm-in-line...

        • topspin 5 hours ago
          > so there should be no significant design changes

          The NRC frequently changes requirements for reactors while they're under construction. The NRC does not waive the right to demand changes merely due to prior design approval. This is a novel (for the US) design, so there will be unanticipated changes as the project progresses.

          Russia has been operating two sodium cooled fast reactors for decades. The BN-600 and BN-800 are both operating today. The early history of the BN-600 was... interesting, suffering (at least) 14 sodium fires due to leaks. This "Natrium" design is similar; a sodium pool with two sodium loops. They are taking on the additional challenge of storing a massive quantity of molten salt. It's going to take a lot of effort by many steely eyed missile people to make this happen.

          Trump issued an EO in 2025 that's supposed to make the NRC more circumspect about requiring changes of approved designs. Then there is all the pull Gates has. Wyoming is no hotbed of anti-nuclear activism. So that's all to TerraPower's favor. But TerraPower will need to fully utilize all the tailwind it can find to make this work.

    • willis936 6 hours ago
      No, but I'm certain the polymarket gamblers do.
      • rgmerk 5 hours ago
        I did have the same thought, had a quick look (I'm not a polymarket user) and couldn't find a market relating to this project.

        Put it this way, if it's in commercial operation by 2031 I'll eat my hat.

        • GorbachevyChase 5 hours ago
          If the DOW needs fissile material, then you might be impressed at how fast things are done. The obstacles are mostly discretionary.
        • hunterpayne 4 hours ago
          There is one, its hard to find. It only has about 19k of volume, so its very thinly traded.
          • rgmerk 2 hours ago
            Can you link to it? I'm curious.
    • testing22321 3 hours ago
      China have 28 nukes under construction right now, and have built more in the last 30 years than the rest of the world combined.

      Even with all that experience and expertise, their questionable environmental policies and questionable worker rights, it still takes them SEVEN years to build a single nuke.

      The claim that anyone else can do it faster with zero recent experience isn’t only laughable, it’s downright fraud.

      • hunterpayne 2 hours ago
        The Chinese CAP1400s took 5 years and that's a new design to them. The first NPP was built in 1951 (ish) and took 18 months from blackboard to grid interconnection. Some designs take longer, others are shorter. Some parts of Vogal were rebuilt 3x times due to the federal government changing the design requirements multiple times during construction. Another challenge is that NPPs are built rarely enough that its hard to be a supplier to the nuclear industry so many parts are custom built per project. That doesn't have to be the case. The idea there is a hard limit of 7 years, sorry...that just isn't so.
      • webXL 2 hours ago
        Wow, that's A lot. Even though there's diminishing returns with more workers, they'd probably build them faster if they weren't scaling out so much concurrently, right?

        Seems like we could match a 7 year clip at a much smaller scale. We'll be forced to at some point, but we need to overhaul the regulatory mess and fix the grid first. Hopefully that happens long before battalions of Chinese drones and droids take over the world.

  • josefritzishere 8 hours ago
    This is huge, historic even.
    • dopa42365 3 hours ago
      You know what would be even bigger? Building perfectly safe and fine AP 1000s that already exist many times today and can be built whenever you want to.

      0 under construction in the US

      • mpweiher 18 minutes ago
        Westinghouse plans 10 AP-1000 reactors in the USA

        https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/westinghouse-pla...

        Yes, it would be better if they had already started, but the ship is turning.

        • ViewTrick1002 10 minutes ago
          It is not. The right wing is instead waking up to reality. Apparently they like extremely cheap distributed electricity. Who could have guessed that.

          Why MAGA suddenly loves solar power

          The Trump-led attack on solar eases as the right reckons with its crucial role in powering AI and keeping utility bills in check.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2026/03/02/katie-mil...

      • fwipsy 40 minutes ago
        True but additional context: Wikipedia says that two came online in 2023 and 2024, and two more are partially constructed, seeking additional funding to continue. Lots more internationally.
    • mayama 4 hours ago
      How is this fundamentally different from Nuscale approval? Like Nuscale this is also brand new design, sodium fast reactor, that hasn't been commercially deployed and is likely to run into usual ballooning budgets and western nuclear construction roadblocks/delays
      • evilos 46 minutes ago
        They're already building this one. Nuscale didn't break ground AFAIK.
      • dmix 3 hours ago
        If there’s more than one approval a decade maybe the odds will be higher it won’t be a bloated mess.
        • croes 1 hour ago
          Or you just have two bloated messes
    • amanaplanacanal 5 hours ago
      Maybe. There is a long road from "approved" to "operational".
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    • tw04 5 hours ago
      > pedo Bill Gates

      Huh? You’re going to need a citation to throw those kind of accusations around. A serial philanderer? Absolutely. But all indications are he was interested in adult women, not even young women. I think the Russian call girls that Epstein set him up with were in their 30s?

    • eli_gottlieb 6 hours ago
      What are the substantive safety or environmental objections to the project that TerraPower is bypassing by allegedly bribing the government?
      • jfengel 5 hours ago
        I don't know. I guess we'll find out the hard way.
  • stinkbeetle 5 hours ago
    Great, hopefully the ship is turning around slowly. I have been hearing from pro-carbon "environmentalists" for 30 years that "we should have built nuclear 20 years ago but doing so now would be pointless". Meanwhile we may have just reached peak-coal today if we are lucky. Well past time to stop listening to anything those grifting charlatans have to say.
    • tacticus 3 hours ago
      > Well past time to stop listening to anything those grifting charlatans have to say.

      Are you describing the "just build nukes" party here?

      Cause we've been waiting a while for this nuke solution to actually ship but every example is far more expensive all while the nuke lovers block solar and wind for the same reasons.

      • Shitty-kitty 3 hours ago
        There is no for-profit companies that are in it to save the planet, despite what the brochures say. Unfortunately for non-carbon power companies, their main competition is each other rather then fossil fuel sources.
      • stinkbeetle 1 hour ago
        No.
    • amanaplanacanal 5 hours ago
      They got what they wanted. They are still successfully killing solar and wind projects.

      I'll be surprised if this project actually gets built, though.

      • mpweiher 48 minutes ago
        Construction for the non-nuclear parts started a while ago and is proceeding.

        https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/terrapower-break...

      • hunterpayne 3 hours ago
        I don't think killing solar and wind projects is what the greens do. The problems with solar and wind are entirely due to the laws of physics. They get large advantages in the energy markets in most places. They have been very effective in preventing nuclear though which ironically does so much real world damage to their cause that all the rest of what they do is a drop in the bucket.
        • croes 1 hour ago
          Our problem isn’t energy production, it’s storage.

          Nuclear power plants aren’t flexible enough for sudden changes in energy consumption.

          • mpweiher 45 minutes ago
            The storage problem is home-made, because our problem is intermittent renewables that can't produce on-demand.

            With consistent producers like nuclear there is no storage problem.

            And of course the Natrium plant has the buffer so it can ramp grid output up and down while maintaining the reactor at consistent power levels.

            • croes 5 minutes ago
              Nuclear power plants and the electric networks have a big problem when power consumption has sudden big changes, like this

              https://www.wsj.com/business/energy-oil/a-new-threat-to-powe...

              Storage would mean just to reroute the energy to storage, otherwise you need to lower the power plant‘s output what doesn’t happen fast in nuclear power plants

            • ViewTrick1002 12 minutes ago
              > With consistent producers like nuclear there is no storage problem.

              This tells me you’ve never looked at a demand curve. In for example California the usage swings from 18 GW to 50 GW over the day and seasons.

              The problem has always been economical. And this solution is looking like a bandaid to get taxpayer handouts.

              Why store expensive nuclear electricity rather than extremely cheap renewable electricity?

          • chickenbig 42 minutes ago
            France seems to work. They have plenty of nuclear power that is flexible. And you can have other forms of consumption flexibility; otherwise wind and solar are really in trouble.
            • ViewTrick1002 16 minutes ago
              France uses their own and their neighbors fossil capacity to manage nuclear inflexibility.

              When a cold spell hits France exports turn to imports.

              Now EDF is crying about renewables lowering nuclear earning potential and increasing maintenance costs.

              The problem is that they are up against economic incentives. Why should a company or person with solar and storage buy grid based nuclear power? They don’t.

              Why should they not sell their excess to their neighbors? They do.

              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-16/edf-warns...