Entso-E final report on Iberian 2025 blackout

(entsoe.eu)

75 points | by Rygian 3 hours ago

6 comments

  • singhrac 36 minutes ago
    I think people underestimate how valuable these reports are, so I’m very glad that detailed investigation is done here. Every major grid operator around the world is going to study this and make improvements to make sure this doesn’t happen on their grid.

    In a lot of ways it’s like investigations into airplane crashes.

  • algoth1 1 hour ago
    As someone who lived through the blackout it was wild. I felt back into the pre-internet, pre-smartphone era. It was pretty cool actually. The rumor mill spread so fast that Within hours the official word on the street was that we were getting hacked by a foreign military and people were joking that we had nothing of interest to be conquered xD
    • pfortuny 55 minutes ago
      The hack thing spread wildly, indeed. Weird experience.
    • madaxe_again 49 minutes ago
      I didn’t even know about it until the next day - totally off grid, and starlink for internet access - and no mobile signal where we live to give it away either.
  • darkwater 1 hour ago
    The fact that there is not a single root cause but several ones makes me instinctively think this is a good report, because it's not what the "bosses" (and even less politicians) like to hear.
    • drob518 1 hour ago
      Frequently, when you see these massive failures, the root cause is an alignment of small weaknesses that all come together on a specific day. See, for instance, the space shuttle O-ring incident, Three-Mile Island, Fukushima, etc. These are complex systems with lots of moving parts and lots of (sometimes independent) people managing them. In a sense, the complexity it the common root cause.
      • linuxguy2 46 minutes ago
        It's like the Swiss Cheese model where every system has "holes" or vulnerabilities, several layers, and a major incident only occurs when a hole aligns through all the layers.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model

        • Ringz 36 minutes ago
          I use this model all the time. It's very helpful for explaining the multifactorial genesis of catastrophes to ordinary people.
          • anonymars 21 minutes ago
            Also perhaps worth a read:

            https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20080416-00/?p=22...

            "You’ve all experienced the Fundamental Failure-Mode Theorem: You’re investigating a problem and along the way you find some function that never worked. A cache has a bug that results in cache misses when there should be hits. A request for an object that should be there somehow always fails. And yet the system still worked in spite of these errors. Eventually you trace the problem to a recent change that exposed all of the other bugs. Those bugs were always there, but the system kept on working because there was enough redundancy that one component was able to compensate for the failure of another component. Sometimes this chain of errors and compensation continues for several cycles, until finally the last protective layer fails and the underlying errors are exposed."

      • amelius 1 hour ago
        It usually starts with a broken coffee machine.
    • OgsyedIE 1 hour ago
      There are ways to aggregate these into a single resilience score for policy makers with only moderate loss of detail but it's unpopular.
    • ragebol 1 hour ago
      Yep, sounds like "This was bound to happen at some point"
      • cucumber3732842 1 hour ago
        Which on some level is exactly "what the bosses and politicians want to hear"

        When it's everybody's fault it's nobody's fault.

  • throw47452955 1 hour ago
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  • jacquesm 35 minutes ago
    472 pages. That's going to be a nice bit of reading this weekend. It is very nice to see such a comprehensive report as well as the fact that it was made public immediately.