The great Scouse pasty war

(livpost.co.uk)

53 points | by DamonHD 3 days ago

7 comments

  • Lio 1 day ago
    I’m just going say this, what’s shown in the illustration is clearly NOT a pasty.

    Pasties are pretty serious grub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty

  • gizajob 1 day ago
    Bizarre, but welcome, to see this article wholly unrelated to hackerdom on the front page.

    My take is that Sayers quality just wasn’t good enough and still isn’t, and that all the buyouts gutted the heart out of the business.

    As a scouser I choose Greggs over Sayers any day.

    • happymellon 16 hours ago
      > My take is that Sayers quality just wasn’t good enough

      If I'm thinking quality, Greggs isn't my first suggestion...

  • crazygringo 1 day ago
    Whyyy haven't sausage rolls taken off in the US?

    Traveling to the UK and Australia, I love them. So satisfying.

    Why do we get stuck with... gas station hotdogs instead?

    I genuinely don't get it.

    • masfuerte 1 day ago
      If you start a business do pork pies too.
      • jbl0ndie 1 day ago
        And Scotch eggs
        • mc32 1 day ago
          And Jellied eel, why not?
          • tom_ 23 hours ago
            Pork pies and scotch eggs are widely-available savoury snacks in the UK, but jellied eels are not?
            • Aromasin 18 hours ago
              I want to make clear to the US folks here that there's about 2 or 3 cafes that still sell traditional eels, and it's explicitly a London food, not wider British cuisine. From the number of videos and articles I see about them though, you'd think the country was covered in Eel cafés. Honestly, covering them at all is tabloid ragebait content at this point.
            • lproven 12 hours ago
              Correct.

              Pork pies even have a protected geographic designation now:

              https://www.mmppa.co.uk/

              Scotch eggs are a common, if old fashioned, pub snack and are sold in supermarkets.

              Jellied eels are a London thing, mainly poor areas of central East London, and very very rare even there now.

    • pixl97 1 day ago
      Had to look up what was in the article and it's more like something you'd find at a donut shop in the US, but not quite the same. Things like the klobasnek/kolache are popular here in Texas.
      • dylan604 1 day ago
        Cannot make the DFW<->AUS run without a Czech Stop
        • lproven 12 hours ago
          I've never been to Texas in my life, but I did live in Czechia for 9 years and my wife is Czech.

          A Czech koláč is always sweet, with no exceptions. I Googled the foods you and the previous comment mention, and I've never seen anything like them. The Czechs do sometimes bake bread rolls with a sausage inside, though – they are very big on sausages – and they're sold cold in supermarkets and bakeries as a savoury snack. I think they're called variants on "bread roll with sausage", though, and I don't think I've ever heard them called "klobasnek" or "klobasnik".

          Saying that, now we live in the British Isles, my wife has developed a fondness for sausage rolls. Including Gregg's ones when we visit the UK. :-)

          • pixl97 8 hours ago
            Texas Czech and actual Czech have about 150 years of divergent evolution.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klob%C3%A1sn%C3%ADk

            It's very much a Texas thing.

          • dylan604 10 hours ago
            >I've never been to Texas in my life...and I've never seen anything like them

            "For decades, Czech Stop has been known far and wide for its world-famous Texas kolaches"[0]

            You clearly missed the "Texas kolaches" in your searching. Using "Texas" as a qualifier does big things. Texas BBQ or Texas chili is not the same thing as BBQ or chili from other places. Texas kolaches are not the same thing as Czech koláč, nor never claimed to be. At best, inspired by from Czech babis passing down and tweaking recipes since the 1800s

            [0]https://www.czechstop.net/

  • siliconpotato 13 hours ago
    > I have nothing against Greggs.

    I do. This man is benefitting from your custom: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-39443585

  • leke 16 hours ago
    I used to love my Sayers sausage roll as a kid. I haven't lived in Liverpool for 25 years now, but sad to hear Sayers is no more.

    Obligatory dad joke.

    How do you make a sausage roll?

    Push it down a hill.

    • lproven 12 hours ago
      > I haven't lived in Liverpool for 25 years now, but sad to hear Sayers is no more.

      Same, except it's just over 50 years for me.

      This story was quite a nostalgia trip for me – I immediately remembered trips to Sayers bakeries with my mum when I was little, although as a little lad I was more interested in the cakes than the sausage rolls myself.

  • yarekt 11 hours ago
    goddamnit, read for a solid 5 minutes until I realised the rest is paywalled, sigh. No pasty facts isn’t worth another subscription. I have many other interesting things to do
    • DamonHD 8 hours ago
      Wasn't paywalled when I posted it a few days ago - would not have posted if it had been!
      • benj111 5 hours ago
        Annoyingly it's several (phone) screens down, so you get into the article before it cuts you off.