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  • adyavanapalli 2 minutes ago
    I had a chance to look at this and noticed you were sending telemetry to an endpoint you control: https://dirac.run/v1/event. It doesn't seem like you're sending anything obviously sensitive or doing anything in bad faith (though, I do see api errors being sent, which could potentially leak sensitive info), but you gotta admit that that's scary seeing you as the sole dev for this. Plus, it's opt out too. Sorry, it's no go for me.
  • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
    Interesting things Dirac does:

    1. Uses an optimized version of Hash-Anchored edits for file editing (https://dirac.run/posts/hash-anchors-myers-diff-single-token)

    2. Utilizes language's AST to decide what to fetch into context, entirely avoids large code file reads

    3. Batches all operations. Does large number of reads/edits simultaneously (you can see a video demo for deepseek-v4-flash here https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1suhdki/tested_...)

    4. Allows the model to execute code to analyze things on the fly, so the model can simply write bash/python/perl script to accomplish things where appropriate

    5. A lot of context curation and opportunistic context updates, i.e. put into context anything that you are certain model would ask next

    • messh 13 minutes ago
      Anchor based editing requires injecting new anchors to the context, and dirac does so via a diff. So how is this more efficient (token-wise) than search and replace?? Even at a single token per hash. Also, code is read more than written so these just add up. I experimented once with stable anchors, albeit longer than a single token, and found it a downgrade.

      My conclusion is that the efficiency dirac sees comes mainly from showing file skeleton by default

    • jbellis 18 minutes ago
      > Batches all operations. Does large number of reads/edits simultaneously...

      I wasn't sure what this meant, so I looked at the source. It seems to be referring to tool APIs being designed around taking multiple targets as a list parameter, instead of hoping the model makes appropriately parallel tool calls. (This matches my experience btw, models are reluctant to make a large number of parallel calls simultaneously, and this seems more pronounced with weaker models.)

      • verdverm 12 minutes ago
        I think Anthropic may have mentioned this first, this pattern is also something my custom agent's tools are designed around, pretty sure I picked it up from them.
    • sally_glance 41 minutes ago
      Is there a complete list of the tools somewhere? I'm interested in how you chose to expose the AST specifically. In my own harness attempts I wanted to keep the number of tools absolutely minimal and briefly experimented with including an AST lib to use via an execute_python tool (plus some examples in the system prompt). Results were mixed though, with most models preferring ripgrep.
    • deskamess 2 hours ago
      I always wondered why AST's were not more of a part in both editing and scoping of changes/parsing code. I thought I read an article where they said 'grep' was just as effective. It kinda made sense for the case they were talking about.
      • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
        Grep is effective for the most part, except for situations like when you have huge codebases and the thing you're looking for is used in too many places both as symbol and non-symbol.

        Another annoying thing about plain grep is, LLMs often end up pulling in bundled packages when using grep where 1 line is large enough to ruin the context window

        • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
          > Grep is effective for the most part

          It's very effective in well-written and well-designed code bases where concepts tend to be relatively well formed to not be named the same as everything else, so grepping for symbols give you good search results.

          Projects where the god-object or core concepts are generic names like "Tree", "Node" or other things that are used everywhere, tends to be short of impossible to search with grep and friends.

    • UncleOxidant 1 hour ago
      > Utilizes language's AST to decide what to fetch into context,

      Does that mean that it's only going to work with certain langauges for which it has parsers available?

    • blurbleblurble 1 hour ago
      Did you consider incorporating ast-grep or gritql?

      Congratulations, great work.

      • sally_glance 34 minutes ago
        Can't speak for OP but I tried providing ast-grep in the execution context of an execute_bash tool, but even with pretty aggressive steering most models just don't seem to use it a lot. More expensive/SOTA models or higher reasoning increases the chances but lowers speed and raises cost. Maybe due to training bias for exploration tasks?
        • blurbleblurble 30 minutes ago
          Yes, I've tried this passive approach too and didn't dig much further after that. I thought maybe they'd figured out something more intentional in the prompting to enable these kinds of approaches.
          • sally_glance 14 minutes ago
            I have a hunch model proficiency for a given CLI tool very much correlates with how many StackOverflow answers and blog entries providing examples for it there are...
            • blurbleblurble 3 minutes ago
              My sense is that we're at a tipping point where instruction following is getting good enough to disrupt these old habits
    • tripleee 2 hours ago
      "Hey everyone, you know that tech that so many of you mentioned has made your work miserable and you're worried might put you out of a job? I think I made it even better! And I didn't even get paid for it! Hah!"

      Anyone working on this is anti-developer.

  • sally_glance 17 minutes ago
    Great job and congrats! Working on my own harness has been one of my favorite side projects in the past couple of weeks, of course I never finish anything... But I'm very interested in your experience with the following:

    1. Context management - specifically pruning old tool call responses, truncation of tool output and automatic compaction. Those have worked pretty great for me, benefits of reducing context greatly seem to outweigh gains from "remembering" everything. I always leave short summaries though.

    2. "Subagents" - my latest attempts revolve around not exposing any tools for the main agent at all, except for a run_agent tool where the subagent has access to the classic search/execute/fetch tools. My theory is that if subagents return concise summaries this would automatically keep the parent agent context clean for much longer. Still experimenting though, writing prompts for subagents may also be too far outside of the current training sets.

  • mdasen 1 hour ago
    It's really interesting how much the AI harness seems to matter. Going from 48% via Google's official results to 65% is a huge jump. I feel like I'm constantly seeing results that compare models and rarely seeing results that compare harnesses.

    Is there a leaderboard out there comparing harness results using the same models?

    • manx 17 minutes ago
      We probably want to compare the cartesian product of model+harness.
    • GodelNumbering 47 minutes ago
      I really wish there was! I thought of even creating one but it would be conflict of interest
  • avereveard 1 hour ago
    "astounding how much the harness matters" is the right read and it should be the lasting one. the model is rentable, the prompts are rentable, the benchmark numbers are mostly a function of the harness around them. swapping Gemini for Sonnet underneath the same harness has a smaller bench delta than swapping the harness around the model. the cheating-agents post you linked is the same observation through a different lens, the harness is what's being measured, the model is just the substrate.

    that said context management seem to be solving today model problems, more than being an universal property, and will probably be obsoleted a few model generations down the road, as tool obsoleted RAG context injection from question embeddings.

    • himata4113 54 minutes ago
      That's why ARC-AGI-3 doesn't allow the use of a harnesses. The model has to create the harness instead.
  • gobdovan 20 minutes ago
    Very interesting, especially the harness point, how much of performance is in the wrapper tools (when I almost run out of credits, I change my model to a smaller one and try to give it more structured prompts; very often gpt-5.4-mini with structure works better than gpt-5.4 with vibes)

    This inspired me to start a "skill distillery" [0] where I take good agent workflow ideas and turning them into small, inspectable/installable skills.

    The first one is dirac-workflow, based on Dirac's structural code workflow. It's not a Dirac clone tho, it has no runtime, persistent AST index, hash-anchor editing engine, or benchmark harness. Just a small AST helper and the workflow discipline as a portable skill.

    I also dogfooded it on the Dirac repo itself and included a short report.

    Would appreciate feedback from the original author, if the prompts and tools [1] are representative.

    [0] https://github.com/ouatu-ro/skill-distillery

    [1] https://github.com/ouatu-ro/skill-distillery/blob/main/skill...

  • adyavanapalli 1 hour ago
    I haven't tried it, but I'm curious why you decided to implement a whole new harness over just writing extensions in pi. From whatever I've done with pi so far, the extension api is quite extensive. Hash anchored edits, for example, can definitely be implemented in pi. Anyhow, thank you for showing us your project and will be checking it out later. Cheers!
    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      A few months ago one afternoon I was very frustrated with how slow Cline was being so decided to look under the hood. Decided to make a couple of changes. Got sucked in. About 70k lines of change, another 40k lines of deletions and two months later, here we are.
      • mring33621 2 minutes ago
        The best kind of project. I'm trying this today. I've been happily using OpenCode so far.
  • kha1n3vol3 55 minutes ago
    I am using dirac with Kimi 2.6 for refactoring a rust codebase. I have a Clean Architecture design which is being reinforced. The scope of work is laid out in a Beads epic with sub-issues. The planning was done with gpt5.5, and gpt5.5 is checking the work is complete. I have found that dirac is more productive on large codebase refactoring than OpenCode which actually trashed the .rs file and had to revert the code.
  • deaux 31 minutes ago
    1. Would be good to benchmark at least one other model from a different family to see if it indeed generalizes. Minimax 2.7 seems a good candidate to keep it affordable. Until then we can't really tell if it's just overfit on Gemini 3 Flash.

    2. Until then your landing page needs to mention all the numbers are just from running on Gemini 3 Flash. Currently there's no mention at all of Gemini.

    3. Assuming that cheaper also means faster in this case where model is equal? If so, then why not add this to the benchmarks to highlight another advantage - time until completion of the tasks. If it's the opposite and it takes longer (seems unlikely), then it would be transparent to note this.

    4. Would be good to note if it does or does not support skills, (nested) AGENTS.md, MCP and so on for people considering migrating.

  • bryanhogan 2 hours ago
    If I understand correctly, this is a heavily improved Cline fork? Does that mean features such as plan and act mode are also still there?
    • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
      Yes, plan+act mode is one thing I loved about Cline!
  • nzoschke 52 minutes ago
    I’ve haven’t had great experiences with Gemini for coding yet. I’m doing reasonably simple full stack Go apps. Tried Gemini-ClI, antigravity, Pi.

    The problems I’ve experienced are less adept at picking the right bash commands to build and test the Go app, and not following idiomatic Go or code base patterns for changes.

    A skill hasn’t helped much.

    Will need to try this and open code next.

  • Mashimo 2 hours ago
    Interesting. Would love a comparison to pi.dev (Not Ohmypi)

    How does this perform in day to day coding tasks, outside of benchmarks?

    • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
      https://github.com/dirac-run/dirac#-evals

      README has eval of 8 tasks over 7 agents (including both pi and omp). Pi-mono costs second lowest across the 8 tasks (after Dirac) but occasionally misses produces incomplete changes.

      Interestingly, 2 tasks where pi missed some changes both were the tasks that benefitted from AST symbol understanding (e.g. find all instances of things that refer to this symbol and change those things). Since pi relies on bash type tooling, it missed some occurrences

      • howdareme 2 hours ago
        Going to assume you didnt capture the data but could you add time taken to completion for each if you have it?
      • messh 1 hour ago
        re. bash type tooling-- it doesnt mean an agent cannot use ast: using treesitter cli this should be perfect possible
  • martinald 2 hours ago
    Very interesting! I've often thought static analysis could really help agents (I wrote this last summer: https://martinalderson.com/posts/claude-code-static-analysis...), but despite being hyped for LSPs in Claude Code it turned out to be very underwhelming (for many of the reasons that they can be annoying in a "real" IDE, ie static analysis starts firing mid edit and complaining and cached analysis getting stuck).

    Curious to know if this has been an issue with your AST approach on larger projects?

    The hash line based numbering is very interesting too (though I see on Opus 4.5+ far far fewer editing errors).

    I've often thought that even if model progress stopped today, we'd still have _years_ of improvements thru harness iteration.

    • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
      Wrt LSP, it uses the default LSP mechanism of the ide provider.

      For AST, it uses tree-sitter WASMs (ships them with the package), and maintains queries (https://github.com/dirac-run/dirac/tree/master/src/services/...)

      To keep performance fast, it stores the symbols DB (using sqlite) in the workspace's directory and incrementally updates it based on timestamps. Then it uses this DB to resolve symbol queries

      • martinald 2 hours ago
        Yes I understand, but do you not have issues that it drifts out of date and confuses the agents (especially on longer running tasks)?

        Like even "full" Visual Studio and Resharper have issues with this. Eg, you start editing file x, 'intellisense' runs, says there are loads of errors... because you haven't finished editing yet.

        • tuo-lei 1 hour ago
          same issue from the other side. when a human is editing, the LSP fires mid-keystroke and shows bogus errors for a second, whatever. with an agent doing 5 edits in a row, the symbol DB is always behind by one edit, so the next lookup pulls stale references. you can re-index synchronously after each edit but that kills the batching speed.
  • nthypes 2 hours ago
    Can't OpenCode reach the same just developing this as a feature or plug-in? Like anchored edit?
    • mdasen 1 hour ago
      Sure. Dirac is just a fork of the Cline harness and obviously OpenCode could take the same techniques and implement them. I don't know how difficult it would be to implement them in OpenCode, but given that Dirac and OpenCode are both open source, a future version of OpenCode could always be a re-branded Dirac (I'm sure there are ways to implement Dirac's techniques without having to completely replace OpenCode's underlying code base, but this illustrates that at the extreme, they could clearly just take Dirac in its entirety to get the same results).
  • Aeroi 58 minutes ago
    harness definitely makes a difference for the benchmarks. I ran my agent Camera Search against a few benchmarks and was able to beat Opus 4.7.

    I created a real world benchmark, for mining, oil&gas, construction ect. called FieldOps-bench and it basically proves that vertical agents and specialized harness, tool, systems outperforms SOTA models alone still.

  • scoopdewoop 35 minutes ago
    The Hash-anchor edit guy! Sincerely great idea, I used it in my own toy harness to good effect. I just checked this out, never tried it before, and its great! Clearly a well-iterated design with good choices made.

    It is so refreshing to see real FOSS and not a grift. Simple openrouter api key, and I'm going.

    This is what I'm using from now on. You are doing the best work in this space.

  • blueTiger33 2 hours ago
    Stared it. will try it later. one question though, to make it simpler for me, in what tasks does this model shine, how do you improve the score? I already use some skills to cut down CC costs, like caveman, rtk cli and a few others. just want to understand
    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      I did limited testing using Sonnet on CC vs Sonnet on Dirac. I could not confirm the costs however
  • michelhabib 1 hour ago
    woow, looks very good. I'm wondering if you do any optimizations for cli in general, since you're not using MCP. I'm building my own CLI for AI Agents, and was always concerned with context rot.
  • redrove 2 hours ago
    I keep trying to use dirac-cli with codex and it won't work: Error: Codex API error: Codex API request failed: 400.

    Any ideas?

    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      Assuming you logged in with OAuth, I am guessing you are trying to use gpt-5.5?

      In my tests, it worked using gpt-5.4 for me and I assumed gpt-5.5 is not available to me because I am on the free plan

      Do you have the subscription that allows 5.5? If so, I can look into what changed in API. Sorry I rarely use openAI so it is a bit of an untrodden path

      • redrove 36 minutes ago
        Yes I'm on ChatGPT Pro (OAuth) and I'm trying to use gpt-5.5-xhigh.

        That was the issue, 5.4 works just fine.

        Support for service: priority (GPT /fast mode) would also be cool!

  • npodbielski 27 minutes ago
    Ha! I had an idea to do something like that myself over the weekend after trying Junie and Mistral to write some test for my personal project, that took literally hours! because Qwen 3.5 I am using locally can run 10k prompt for 10mins. Which should not be the case if agent would ask really simple questions like:

    - what tool you need?

    - what would be parameters for the tool

    - what method you want to read?

    instead of sending few kilobytes of build output and waiting for response. Oh well.. Good thing someone already did that!

  • snqb 2 hours ago
    how well does it do on frontier models like Opus 4.6?
    • GodelNumbering 1 hour ago
      I have only done functionality testing, no benchmark testing on Opus (decided to pay my rent instead)
  • neonstatic 1 hour ago
    I am a bit confused. What languages does it help with? You mention AST manipulation, so I am assuming it's not universally applicable, e.g. to Rust?
    • deviation 16 minutes ago
      AST (Abstract Syntax Tree) is essentially a search algorithm to better help the agent do it's job.
  • aetherspawn 2 hours ago
    Sorry I couldn’t really figure out if this was a harness, a fine tuned model, or both. Can we use Qwen with this for example? Is the performance expected to be better in that case?
    • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
      The model was the default gemini-3-flash-preview.

      Harness was https://www.npmjs.com/package/dirac-cli

      Since Dirac is Cline's heavily modified fork, it supports all models Cline supported, including Qwen and all popular open/closed models

      As a matter of fact, I am trying to run terminal bench 2.0 using some OSS models at the moment but the slow inference speeds are causing tasks to timeout

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  • nthypes 2 hours ago
    No CLI? Only VSCode extension?
    • GodelNumbering 2 hours ago
      Cli too (you can't run tbench without cli as it runs in an isolated docker env) `npm install -g dirac-cli`