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  • kbaker 1 hour ago
    We have (had?) some ticks in our backyard and I came across these which I thought was a clever attack angle: tick tubes.

    Permethrin-soaked cotton balls in a tube, mice find them and build nests out of the freely available cotton, ticks that the mice have gathered while walking around die when they come back to the nest.

    • felix-the-cat 56 minutes ago
      It does work a little, but it's even more effective to just get some chickens. I did find permethrin works great on clothing - when I used to go hunting a lot I'd get ticks on me every time, and the thing is they climb off of your boots in the car and go under the seats or wherever so you don't get bitten until three days later when you're driving back from grocery shopping or whatever. After I started using permethrin and sprayed the floor of my car with it I never saw another tick again.
      • greenavocado 13 minutes ago
        Wow this is extremely insightful. I need to spray my car floor since I live in tick country.
  • opwieurposiu 2 days ago
    If you are out in the woods and you come upon a roughly circular area of crushed down grass, that is a deer bed. Try and avoid walking through it, deer beds are full of ticks.

    The deer trails are a lot harder to avoid.

    • umpalumpaaa 3 hours ago
      I avoid grass all together- especially in the woods.
      • Insanity 3 hours ago
        Or avoid the trails all-together. Given the 30th anniversary of Trainspotting this seems relevant: https://youtu.be/xtbS_PdA198?si=8ba8Fp8_uzdpIq6J.

        I’m pretty wary of ticks, when you go for hikes just do a body check after. Also, I tend to go with long pants (even in summer, I dislike bugs more than the sweat).

        Plus a lightweight windbreaker can help to cover upper body. Plus it limits sun exposure which is also harmful.

        • topgrain2 2 hours ago
          Linen clothes are awesome. Long trousers and long sleeves and almost as cool as short sleeves and shorts in shade, and cooler in direct sun.
          • littlestymaar 2 hours ago
            Linen is the most underappreciated fabric. It's cool in both ways. I don't understand why so few people wear linen in summer.
            • topgrain2 40 minutes ago
              Yeah I’m a huge fan, lots of linen and thin, fine cotton that’s not been formaldehyde treated (so, not “non-iron”) on me in hot months. I even have an open-weave linen sweater that’s comfortable into the 90s of degrees F. I’ve got a few high-twist wool pieces that are nice in the heat, but they’re more specialized, less everyday wear sorta of things.

              Dedicated summer clothes in trad fabrics are a ton less durable than their winter counterparts, though, for the simple reason that they’re much lighter-constructed. Individual pieces can be had plenty cheap if you bargain-hunt and shop used, but you cycle through more of them than, say, heavy-weight denim or a hefty tweed. Still, mine usually last a few years. Cycling them out seasonally means they don’t wear as fast as some synthetic-blend shirt you wear year-round, so you may not get more wears out of them, but they last a good long while in calendar time.

              But man, do they breathe better than just about any of the fancy “tech” fabrics. And feel nicer. Durability, though, is an issue, and you have to get the fit closer to correct than many shoppers may be used to, because most of them won’t have much stretch (no cheating by blending in some nylon or whatever, like a “tech” fabric would)

            • SoftTalker 1 hour ago
              Cost, more complicated in the laundry, prone to wrinkling, and air-conditioning. Linen clothing was more popular before AC was invented.
            • Analemma_ 1 hour ago
              Some people don't like the scratchy feel of linen compared to cotton, although there are now linen-synthetic blends which ameliorate this almost entirely.
              • mc32 1 hour ago
                I have not come across linens that are scratchy. They can be coarse but not scratchy. Blends can be fine fibers. Coarse wool I do find scratchy, unless it’s cold then the scratchiness goes away. Seems like Belgian linen is good.
        • twoWhlsGud 3 hours ago
          And if you're wearing long sleeves and long pants, you can apply permethrin in a semi permanent way to your clothing to discourage ticks and mosquitoes: https://www.consumerreports.org/health/insect-repellent/is-p...
          • Dumblydorr 2 hours ago
            Do not do so if a cat will be anywhere near the clothes or compound. It’s super harmful to cats.
      • nik282000 40 minutes ago
        If I'm going off trail I cram my jeans into my boots and shake everything out before getting in the car. Ontario ticks are just a part of the experience now :/
      • cortesoft 1 hour ago
        My body helps me with this goal by being ridiculously allergic to all grasses.
  • Hnrobert42 2 hours ago
    Calls to mind one of my favorite Simpsons moments.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGv6RASFsY4&t=26s

  • washbasin 3 hours ago
    Through a combination of two of my hobbies, I learned that pyrethroids are toxic to aquatic animals. Glad to see that they used "locations [that] were situated away from waterbodies". Pyrethroids are very powerful tools for insect control (and non-toxic to humans) but any place where you have runoff or ground seepage is going to be a problem. Aren't those places the ones most likely for ticks to thrive -- areas near bodies of water where animals like deer come to drink?

    So hot take: this would only be useful in places where there are not a lot of ticks?

    (PS: Permethrin-sprayed clothing is very effective.)

    • e28eta 2 hours ago
      They’re also very toxic to cats, which is why dogs & cats have different flea & tick medicines.
      • zukzuk 1 hour ago
        Also bad news if your dog is prone to seizures, as mine was.
    • MegaDeKay 2 hours ago
      Deer ticks will go after pretty much anything warm blooded: coyotes, mice, dogs, etc etc etc.

      Proximity to water doesn't seem to factor much either. Where I live, ticks this year are horrendous and everywhere.

    • pfdietz 3 hours ago
      This reminds me I need to respray my tick pants. Thanks.
  • nephihaha 49 minutes ago
    Some birds eat ticks including guinea fowl of all things.
  • tamimio 2 hours ago
    I got bitten by a mosquito in Ottawa a couple years ago that sent me to the hospital.. I stopped near the river while cycling to see a raccoon for few seconds, was more than enough for that lil sucker to do the job.
    • winxton 1 hour ago
      I got bitten by a tick at a cottage near Ottawa and got a fever then bell's palsy a month later. I didn't even notice I got bit at all at the time. A year later, I went to the hospital for a swollen knee and had surgery done, and ended up being tested positive for lyme disease. The doc says you're too young to have bell's palsy and arthritis. Careful out there!
    • pfdietz 2 hours ago
      There are some potentially very nasty diseases spread by ticks and insects. For example, flaviviruses like West Nile, Dengue, and Powassan (which debilitated and ultimately killed the wife of Canadian fantasy author Charles de Lint.)
  • beautiful_apple 3 hours ago
    > Twenty 50-m trail segments across two sites were randomly assigned to intervention groups: untreated woodchip borders, deltamethrin-treated woodchip borders, and ten assigned to untreated controls.

    > Treated woodchips reduced I. scapularis adult and nymph density by 99 % (incidence rate ratio (IRR) = 0.01, 95 % CI: 0.001–0.08) relative to controls, while untreated woodchips achieved a 48 % reduction (IRR = 0.52, 95 % CI: 0.34–0.78).

  • aaron695 2 hours ago
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  • bluerooibos 2 hours ago
    Another worrying proxy for how deeply climate change is bleeding into everyday life: coffee prices, orange juice prices, and now having to engineer huge trail areas with woodchips just so people can avoid being bitten by exploding tick populations.
    • mantas 2 hours ago
      Ticks are a problem regardless. And they don’t like too much heat. So climate warming may even reduce their population in some parts. Or, more likely, move them up north. Giving relieve to some and headache to others…

      Lyme disease vaccine would help a ton though. I’ve had Lyme 3 times by now. Thankfully encephalitis stab is a thing.

      • kzrdude 1 hour ago
        Norway is projected to have growth in ticks and new tick species because of climate change (warmer and more humid climate), so that's one example of it moving north (though ticks seem to always have been in Norway?)
      • Dumblydorr 2 hours ago
        They don’t like heat? That seems incorrect. If true, Then why are they a huge problem in TX and other southerly areas, and are only now spreading north?
        • SoftTalker 1 hour ago
          Different species I belive. Ticks in Texas are differnent from ticks in Ottowa. Most lyme disease in the US is concentrated in the northeast and northern great lakes states and into Canada (though it is spreading over the past few decades).

          https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/data-research/facts-stats/lyme-dise...

        • bitwalker 1 hour ago
          They seem to be much less active on hot days compared to cooler days in my experience - though I can't say why. I've definitely observed a difference over the years though.

          That said, whether it is hotter or cooler doesn't make much of a difference in terms of how you go about your day - you pretty much have to assume you can encounter them regardless.

        • bluGill 1 hour ago
          They are a huge problem in Minnesota as well.
        • cmrdporcupine 41 minutes ago
          It's the length and depth of cold days in the winter that can potentially limit their breeding populations, is my understanding. So the issue is that more northerly areas are getting much more variance in temperature and lacking long deep consistent cold periods.

          Up and down cycles in temperature have always been a thing on the North American continent but climate change has made it even more variable. We will still get places where it gets very very cold but not for the consistent chunks of time it takes to set back tick populations significantly.

          TLDR I don't think it's the heat or cold per se but the variance.

          And yes climate change is absolutely the prime factor in their spread. Into places where they were not ever a threat before.

      • mihular 1 hour ago
        AFAIK there was a Lyme disease vaccine, but was discontinued, probably because it wasn't effective enough, I don't remember the details.
        • bilegeek 54 minutes ago
        • gramie 1 hour ago
          There has been a vaccine for dogs and cats for a while now, not sure why it hasn't been released for humans yet. Lyme can be really horrible. Some people we know have a 30-something son who was very active (camping, hiking, rock climbing, etc.) until he was bitten by a tick. Now he's quadriplegic.
        • SoftTalker 1 hour ago
          Typically because it's rare enough that the cost/side-effect risk of the vaccine isn't judged to be worth it.

          Humans generally aren't vaccinated for Rabies either, unless you are e.g. a veterinarian who might have a higher chance of exposure to it.

      • SoftTalker 1 hour ago
        So there's no natural immunity after having it once? How would a vaccine work then?
        • zukzuk 56 minutes ago
          There are many strains. You will develop immunity to one strain, but not the others.

          I assume a vaccine would try to be multivalent.

      • cmrdporcupine 39 minutes ago
        I don't understand why we're not vaccinating deer populations, even if we're not vaccinating humans out of safety concerns, etc.

        That and deer populations need to be significantly culled (along with rodents, the other part of the Lyme / deer tick population cycle).

        In any case, lack of long consistent extended cold spells in the winter to set back their breeding population is the reason they've moving further north. Which is tied directly to climate change.

        • bethekidyouwant 17 minutes ago
          I believe mice are the main host of tick populations