A non-folder with a stylus option, an audio jack, microSD card slot and USB-C 3.2+ would be swell. In other words... a beefed-up update of the 2026 Motorola Moto G Stylus [1]. ;)
I was planning to make my next phone a Moto G Stylus. If they do a Graphene one, it'll be certain.
My partner got the Moto G Stylus 2025 after we swore off Samsung last year. I've been very impressed. Other then the camera software, it's a very capable phone, and the headphone port and SD card slot are great. There's 90 gigabytes of lossless music on an SD card now. The camera software sucks, but thanks to a tip I think I heard here on HN, I installed a gcam (Google pixel camera) port and that's great.
Would be nice, although the thread makes it look unlikely for now; they say the flagship processors have security features they require. I've got a 2023 stylus 5G... Never use the stylus, but it was the most reasonable phone with a headphone jack, enough ram, and a qualcomm cpu. Of course, the three year update period from release ended in June, so I've got to find something new soon to stay updated. :(
Yeah... I still hope Motorola might add an "Ultra"-tier Moto G Stylus to their portfolio with more RAM, better CPU and all the other mentioned features. The stylus for me is not just a convenience; it's extremely handy for a lot of tasks in SaSec (safety and security), e. g. on-site annotation of accident/crime scene pics or floor plans (say placement of fire safety sensors, et cetera).
Also this is great unless Motorola is comprimised.
Motorola is doing a large portion of the work of porting GrapheneOS to their devices. They'll provide us with what we need for firmware/drivers in the form we need it and it will be far easier than Pixels. We'll be able to get issues in the firmware and drivers fixed through Motorola and Qualcomm.
Qualcomm makes a good SoC, but the low effort software stack from ODMs do not showcase most differentiating capabilities. This might be net positive for Qualcomm. However, they will for sure fail to recognise that may just start a litigation against graphene OS.
I think the feature we all want in light of this is a simple backup+restore which uses a users SSHD server somewhere so you can wipe completely before travelling and then restore completely when safe again.
Would obviously want it to also backup/restore esim's...
For me the reason why this is a big deal is because, before there was any Motorola upcoming Graphene-compatible model, most people that might be installing Graphene would not trust Google with their phone software, to then go ahead and install Graphene in Google's hardware! A bit of a contradiction there.
It makes sense for security cameras to be secure. Hacked security cameras are a big issue. Motorola investing in partnering with a more secure OS seems aligned.
Yup. My last one took a rather quick end when a tiny bit of salty splash water got under the screen.. IP rating is only when it's fresh off production. Oh well, still a great phone (thanks to GrapheneOS)
> Supporting a flip device with vertical folding would be a new form factor for GrapheneOS. The main use case for those is a tiny phone to use with one hand in the folded form factor.
So, I've been using flip phones now exclusively since the Samsung Z-Flip3 (and will never go back to slab phones unless the flip segment disappears), but I almost never use the outer screen. Maybe that is just me, but I have a feeling it's pretty common.
The question is whether the new gen Snapdragon Elite SoCs will finally support non-protected KVM? That would make native "linux terminal" (which has GUI support) work.. so far Qualcomm is the only flagship vendor that doesn't support it. And this feature currently works with pixels, hopefully it doesn't stop working with Motorola Signature.
Not sure they've ever done anything like this, so time will tell.
I do know Motorola seems to not care much about software - they were still shipping 32 bit until embarrassingly recently, and are known for rarely updating their devices. From that lens, this could be a rather symbiotic relationship if it proves it can sell.
1. [https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_stylus_(2026)-14581...]
My partner got the Moto G Stylus 2025 after we swore off Samsung last year. I've been very impressed. Other then the camera software, it's a very capable phone, and the headphone port and SD card slot are great. There's 90 gigabytes of lossless music on an SD card now. The camera software sucks, but thanks to a tip I think I heard here on HN, I installed a gcam (Google pixel camera) port and that's great.
Also this is great unless Motorola is comprimised.
https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Signature-Dual-SIM-Unlocked-...
https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/s...
$1900 Fold
https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/phones/razr/motorola-razr-f...
$1500 Ultra
https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/phones/razr/razr-ultra-2026...
Would obviously want it to also backup/restore esim's...
The company working with GrapheneOS appears to be Motorola Mobility, owned by Lenovo (China).
So, I've been using flip phones now exclusively since the Samsung Z-Flip3 (and will never go back to slab phones unless the flip segment disappears), but I almost never use the outer screen. Maybe that is just me, but I have a feeling it's pretty common.
Does anybody have any inside baseball to share in terms of whether we can trust this arrangement to last longer than, say, a year?
I do know Motorola seems to not care much about software - they were still shipping 32 bit until embarrassingly recently, and are known for rarely updating their devices. From that lens, this could be a rather symbiotic relationship if it proves it can sell.