13 comments

  • abeppu 51 minutes ago
    So on the one hand it's nice to see when a cool algorithm or framework is used IRL.

    On the other hand, actually applying a 'stable marriage algorithm' to people makes a bunch of assumptions which are worth interrogating:

    - Do people actually know what they want even in the short term?

    - Do people's preference change meaningfully over longer periods of time?

    - Does your preference _upon reading people's profiles_ have any strong relationship to your preference after spending any amount of time with them?

    The property that right after being matched, no one could have matched with someone whose profile they preferred more does not mean that this will create stable relationships.

    • qprofyeh 24 minutes ago
      The match is whoever wants to start on the journey with the user, at that moment, and the algorithm is there to give the potential couple a better starting point. I guess at any rate that’s better than leaving it to hope and chance.
  • throw0101c 1 hour ago
    Stable marriage algorithm or stable matching algorithm?

    > In mathematics, economics, and computer science, the Gale–Shapley algorithm (also known as the deferred acceptance algorithm,[1] propose-and-reject algorithm,[2] or Boston Pool algorithm[1]) is an algorithm for finding a solution to the stable matching problem.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gale–Shapley_algorithm

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_matching_problem

    • thaumasiotes 45 minutes ago
      It is in fact known as the stable marriage algorithm. It's not known as the stable matching algorithm.
  • laybak 1 hour ago
    the Singaporean government is often described as having a "parental" approach. I guess this move would be on brand
    • vovavili 14 minutes ago
      It's also known as being one of the very few countries actually capable of using state capacity to overcome serious social and economic problems. Godspeed.
      • oatmeal1 7 minutes ago
        It's basically a benevolent dictatorship due to one party being in charge for the last 67 years.
        • PorciiVorbesc 6 minutes ago
          Sometimes a benevolent dictatorship is better than a perverted and corrupt democracy.
        • vovavili 3 minutes ago
          Whoever governs Singapore must have that iron in him.
    • chaostheory 56 minutes ago
      Before Xi, Singapore is what China aspired to become. Totally onbrand
      • doctorpangloss 18 minutes ago
        Makes little sense.

        China is a cultural and diaspora behemoth. Completely apples to oranges comparison.

        What about countries similar to Singapore's size and wealth? An interesting thing to look at: how many US electeds are Singapore, Israel, Hong Kong or Taiwan 1st-generation heritage or born? I like this number because you cannot fake it (unlike so many things, like statistics reported by countries that are not free), you cannot buy an election or run a PR campaign to pretend you had a successful election, and it measures a real notion of power (something the CCP aspires to have): Singapore 0, China 9, Taiwan 11, Hong Kong 4, Israel 7.

        Anyway I don't really buy into this line of thinking but it is interesting to me to look at a place that isn't really free, like Singapore, and figure out how it affects me.

  • dnautics 32 minutes ago
    Which side do they screw over (the choosers get their worst possible match and the bidders get their best possible match)
  • storywatch 7 hours ago
    I wonder if it's made by the same people behind

    https://aphrodite.global/

    The project was partially started by some students/scholars from there.

  • djoldman 1 hour ago
  • beeforpork 9 hours ago
    Nice! But is there an app with this algorithm/strategy/design for finding good matches for casually having fun together? All the apps I know suck.
    • PorciiVorbesc 8 hours ago
      > finding good matches for casually having fun together?

      Basically all dating apps are optimized for enabling casual hookups at this point.

      >All the apps I know suck.

      Do ALL the apps suck, or are you maybe not appealing enough for being picked for casual hookups by the users on the app?

      • rrr_oh_man 1 hour ago
        > Do ALL the apps suck, or are you maybe not appealing enough for being picked for casual hookups by the users on the app?

        Dunno, @beeforpork sounds hawt

      • nextaccountic 7 hours ago
        The app has an incentive to suck unless you pay
        • whatshisface 1 hour ago
          Go recheck your calculations, you'll notice something about their incentive in the case where you pay.
    • notpushkin 17 minutes ago
      This could work for that purpose in a pinch. You do actually get other matches afterwards, you just don’t get an infinite feed of other candidates and can focus on having great time with the one you’ve got.
    • derektank 50 minutes ago
      Why would you need a pairwise matching algorithm for finding friends? Friends are generally not exclusive nor rivalrous
      • waldrews 42 minutes ago
        It's about prioritizing candidates for the costly initial audition, and breaking symmetry for the introduction, something particularly useful for people who can't just approach other at random in a social setting.
    • Joakal 8 hours ago
      meetup and other related apps have always been best for finding people with related interests.

      If they don't have your interests, feel free to start a new group?

      • TFNA 1 hour ago
        Meetup got enshittified years ago already, and the changes drove away the small communities that once made up so much of the site; the only groups which prosper on it now are mainly large for-profit ventures.

        In places where there is a healthy ecosystem of casual, non-rapacious meetups, that is overwhelmingly organized via Facebook, not Meetup.

        • exhilaration 1 hour ago
          Thank you, I just learned a new word.

          Rapacious

          ADJECTIVE

          1 given to seizing for plunder or the satisfaction of greed.

          2 inordinately greedy; predatory; extortionate.

          a rapacious disposition.

          grasping, voracious,

          Synonyms:

          ravenous

          Antonyms: generous

          3 (of animals) subsisting by the capture of living prey; predacious.

        • bluebarbet 16 minutes ago
          >Meetup got enshittified years ago already

          Citation needed. Not my experience at all. And it has the major benefit of being independent of the tech giants, who already know too much about your social graph.

        • rrr_oh_man 1 hour ago
          FYI, Meetup got acquired by Bending Spoons and it seems it's being de-enshittified.
  • pydry 1 hour ago
    this is their third attempt at a government run dating service I think :/

    it's low key kind of funny how they keep reaching for the quick fix to their collapsed birth rates instead of changing the things that would cost real money or make them less desirable to foreign investors.

    • aw4rzs 32 minutes ago
      What things could Singapore change to fix their birth rates? Empirically, nothing that any country is trying is working.
      • PorciiVorbesc 11 minutes ago
        >nothing that any country is trying is working.

        Because most countries aren't actually trying anything nor can the government do much in that regard when the issues are cultural and emotional.

        The low-birthrate couples who can't/don't want kids aren't suddenly gonna want them if you give them 3 months of paid maternity leave and a monthly stipend or other such welfare perks.

        Those who do have kids because of welfare perks, were having kids anyway, they're now incentivized to have even more.

    • fragmede 52 minutes ago
      What would you do if you were the Singaporean government?
  • fHr 42 minutes ago
    0-worlding
  • thomasfl 1 hour ago
    Will Tinder be blamed for the sudden decline in fertility rate? Is there any other plausible explanstion to South Korea’s sudden and dramatic drop in fertility rate to 0.8? No matter how bad the housing market is or the job market is, there has never in history been such a drop in population.
    • glitchc 42 minutes ago
      The only new variable in the last century of humanity is birth control. All others (hypergamy, economic mobility, migration, etc.) are recurring and have not impacted birth rates significantly in the past.
    • password54321 1 hour ago
      Yes, dating apps turbocharge hypergamy. It is not a secret that the top 10% of men get a huge share of the likes received.

      Edit:

      Share of all likes received according to ChatGPT

      Top 1% 16.4%

      Top 5% 41.1%

      Top 10% 58.0%

      Top 50% 95.7%

      Bottom 50% 4.3%

      • derektank 52 minutes ago
        Male hypergamy and polygyny has been practiced by many cultures historically. They had many problems, but low birth rates wasn’t among them. I don’t think dating apps are a sufficient causal explanation alone for low birth rates