OSS projects banning AI-generated contributions

(osssaysno.com)

34 points | by jlengrand 51 minutes ago

15 comments

  • Arbortheus 13 minutes ago
    I have sympathy for the OSS maintainers, and I don’t see it purely as a “Luddite” behaviour.

    I expect the problem isn’t necessarily the AI generation itself, but the difficulty to distinguish between someone that’s really understood the problem domain versus someone with LLM-induced “Dutch courage”.

    That in combination with a large uptick in volume of community interactions (issues, PRs, …) risks burning out OSS maintainers.

    Perhaps giving it a few months/years for the flurry to die down, and for people to establish better best-practices for using these tools is the motive.

    • Systemerror7A69 1 minute ago
      I agree 100%. If you open a PR, you need to add value somehow - having thought about the problem, understanding the code base deeply or just your time by thinking about a solution you can't otherwise get easily.

      The problem is that the last part changed drastically with LLMs. You can get a lot of solutions easily by prompting an LLM. But that also means you don't need outside PRs for that anymore, and just prompt the LLM yourself.

      That means two things in my opinion:

      1) People haven't internalized that yet. For a lot of people, a functioning solution to a problem with often quite a bit of source code is equivalent to "adding value" - because in the past it was. It meant you thought about the problem, understood it and found a solution. But it was that thinking that added the value.

      2) The minimum threshold for adding this "quality" rises quite a bit. A lot of problems can now be solved very fast with an LLM by someone who understands the code base well enough. You don't need a PR for that.

      I suspect, that means in the future you could both get and need less contributions to OSS projects in general.

      We'll see

  • koalalorenzo 3 minutes ago
    This is super helpful to pick projects. I really care about human-authored code, quality, and I avoid when possible using tools that are vibe coded. OpenSource projects have always been about sharing knowledge and building things together, and I am a little sad to see that AI and LLMs are taking over.

    Recently I was picking a self-hosted tool for planning trips, and I deleted it after a day, because it was extremely vibe-coded and none of the security issues reported in GitHub were ever fixed. It can be a prompt away to fix those! I noticed this way too often in OSS that is vibe coded, people focus on looks, feels and code does not get reviewed enough, because it "looks good with the CSS gradients" and "an LLM is always right".

    So I understand why they would ban and forbid AI / LLM contribution, and I am happy they are banning them, I assume mostly for the mental sanity of maintainers and for making sure that knowledge share and somewhat better PR reviews happens. I will always pick a human-made project over an AI / LLM coded one.

  • maxloh 24 minutes ago
    I don't think this is a good trend.

    Projects like Servo or Redox OS are community-driven and already lack funding. Blocking AI-assisted code will only drive potential contributors away.

    Some projects have built strong communities around AI-assisted development. The T3 Code community [0], for instance, is very active, and most PRs are created with LLM assistance.

    The real issues are disclosure and taking responsibility for your submissions, including carefully reading and testing your own code. Code written by humans isn't inherently better in any sense.

    [0]: https://github.com/pingdotgg/t3code/pulls

    • IsTom 5 minutes ago
      > Blocking AI-assisted code will only drive potential contributors away.

      Well, this seems to be the point of it? To drive away contributors that maintainers regard as more trouble than worth.

    • apt-get 11 minutes ago
      "LLM harness management project accepts PRs made by LLMs" hardly seems anything to write home about, to be honest...
  • staminade 15 minutes ago
    Some of these are misleading. Immich, for example, doesn't accept PRs created using an LLM, but the project has an agents file and there are Claude co-authored commits in the history.
    • ryanbrunner 9 minutes ago
      "Rules for thee, but not for me" makes some sense for OSS maintainers. The maintainer may be comfortable using AI themselves but isn't interested in slop grenade PRs, especially if they accepted PRs fairly begrudgingly in the first place.
      • m3nu 6 minutes ago
        Often I'd rather have a good prompt than a PR. Easier to see the intent of the contributor.
    • bjackman 8 minutes ago
      And I think that's doing the maintainers a disservice.

      "Random strangers, please don't have your agent send us PRs, we don't want to review it" -> yeah, totally reasonable open source maintainer behaviour, doesn't update my perception of the project at all.

      "All code in this repo must be written by hand" -> This is probably not a serious project and I'll make a mental note not to depend on it.

      If servo is really in the latter camp I'd actually say that's negligent at this point. A browser engine that doesn't have agents scanning for and fixing vulns is totally unacceptable.

  • jlengrand 4 minutes ago
    Author here. This is an early project. I've seen projects banning AI pop up quite a few times on HN and was curious in seeing how large the trend is.

    Yes, this is a vibe coded project, I'm simply curious to see how large the trend is, and also look into how people handle writing about AI contributions in their projects.

    I do not intend to make any conclusions our of this. The domain name is mostly a pun on "computer says no"

  • unified101 13 minutes ago
    Silly initiative. All it puts is a target on the repo, and no benefit at all. Atleast let the projects have the option of changing later, rather than publicly branding them.
    • jlengrand 2 minutes ago
      Happy to change this. It was enough for me. A repo, a quote of the contribution policy, and a direct link. what would you need?
  • ssenssei 11 minutes ago
    I saw yesterday that YT-DLP also have banned AI.
  • lemagedurage 21 minutes ago
    Try clicking on "All projects", the vast majority of projects that this website lists are labelled "restricted". The conclusion that open source "says no" seems somewhat dishonest.
    • jlengrand 7 minutes ago
      Author here. Just found the pun fun, I have no intention to claim that OSS says no. I'm mostly interested in finding cases where OSS does say no.
  • ChrisRR 8 minutes ago
    I get the feeling that banning AI code from a project nowadays ends up with people lying about their AI usage. I think the approach other projects take where AI may be used, but the contributor holds the responsibility for it is more appropriate
    • IsTom 4 minutes ago
      What is the mechanism to hold the contributor responsible after the merge?
  • austin-cheney 32 minutes ago
    The submit button is currently returning a github 404.
  • IshKebab 10 minutes ago
    I feel like this is maybe a good thing but for the wrong reasons.

    It's pretty clear at this point that AI coding works and is here to stay. But accepting external AI means you have way less knowledge about how it was generated, what models were used, were they given correct instructions etc. And also there's less benefit to accepting AI contributions because you're really receiving just a few minutes of contributor effort, which you could have easily done yourself.

    There was a project highlighted recently that doesn't accept PRs at all and the maintainers just run the AI themselves. I expect that's where we're heading. If you want to contribute to open source projects in future it's going to be in the form of money for tokens.

    Maybe submit a feature request/bug (prompt) and also pay some money to run the agent.

  • TrackerFF 18 minutes ago
    I'm no AI-evangelist, but this makes them look like AI-luddites. Gatekeeping that will only shrink the number of contributors over time.
    • Systemerror7A69 7 minutes ago
      Is that a bad thing? MANY of these projects ban PRs made with LLMs, without explicitely mentioning being against AI in general. Since AI drastically increases how much code you can write, they might not need LLM contributions from outside - they can just prompt themselves.

      In that case, only getting a few, hand written PRs could mean getting fewer, but higher quality contributers.

      Other projects might not care about getting many contributers, many stars or being widely used. It might simply be a small project someone wants to code by hand. That's absolutely valid, many people still have fun coding by hand.

      The truth is just that there are a lot of slop PRs currently, where ppl just sicced an LLM on a problem, did not validate any findings, did not check the code, did not read the output and just acted as a meat proxy. In many cases, these bans on LLM PRs are simply a reaction to this flood of PRs. After all, as I said above - everyone can do those prompts themselves, they don't need a PR for that.

  • relyks 24 minutes ago
    Why is this a thing? There is AI code slop where no one reviews the code, and then there is closely human-guided agentic coding... maybe they got too much slop as pull requests?
    • muvlon 4 minutes ago
      They 100% got too much slop PRs. I can't speak for all OSS projects but in the case of Rust, it definitely got way out of hand. As a maintainer, there is no easy way to tell whether it was "AI code slop" or "closely human-guided agentic coding", you actually have to go in and understand the stuff. But making careless slop PRs takes 1% or less of the effort, and so the garbage PRs vastly outnumber everything else.

      AI has ruined all of our previous signals for high-effort work, it is effectively running a sybil attack on FOSS.

    • oneeyedpigeon 11 minutes ago
      That's probably one motive: a project notices a significant number of AI contributions, and determines they are of a lower average quality than the average non-AI contribution. Alternatively, there's an ideological motive.
    • Hendrikto 10 minutes ago
      The copyright, licensing, and patent situation is completely up in the air. LLM-generated content might be in large part illegal.
    • nurettin 10 minutes ago
      Maybe it isn't about quality. I'd imagine with so many effortless pull requests about everything, you lose the ability to steer the project. The loss of agency and slaving to comprehend and merge everything leaves you witless and drone-like which sucks the joy out of things.

      Maybe the requests should be focused on one or two areas at a time so you can see some improvement over time instead of "everything at once".

  • nsoam 6 minutes ago
    This is absolutely unenforceable, so I assume it’s a CYA move - if someone sues for copyright infringement they can shift the blame.
  • danielsamuels 13 minutes ago
    The irony of this website being in Claude blue with fingernail cards and status pills.
    • muvlon 1 minute ago
      I'm not sure this website itself is even Anti-AI. The about page says "It is informational and takes no position on whether those policies are right". It also uses red for "banned" and green for "allowed". If it was Anti-AI, you'd expect the opposite, no?